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---+ HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Sep 27, 2024 @ 14:30 UTC

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---++ <a name="Attendees"></a><a name="Attendees"></a>Attendees
   * Attendees: Laurent, Catherine, Mathieu, Ian, Antara, Jutta, Francesca, Matthias, Francesca, Mark CD, maybe missed a few later joiners??
   * Regrets: Ada, Giuseppe
---++ <a name="Actions"></a><a name="Actions"></a>Actions
   * *NEW*
      * *Francesca* - Complete invitations to Plenary and report if there is a space to fill; add Jutta for a Neutrino presentation to the group.
      * *Ian* - Followup with conversation to update section 3.2.2 to discuss extreme poison and observable vs physical and other details discussed in the Git Issue you submitted
      * *Mathieu* - Add Photometry DM to list of DMs with HE interest; HE approaches photometry different than Optical
      * *ALL* - Consider a presentation to another group on a HE topic ... let's have a strong showing and get involved in this meeting - few topics suggestion in notes below.
      * *ALL* - Review the Doc as a whole - what's missing, needs update, needs expansion???
   * *Old/OPEN*
      * *Giuseppe Greco* - writeup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
      * *Laurent* - Expand SVOM (France/China) description (Sec 2.2.3) - *OPEN*
      * *Ada* - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - <b>OPEN </b>(JE had email exchange with Ada - 9/25)
   * *Old/CLOSED*
      * JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG - *DONE*
      * *Jutta* - use case for Neutrino's -<b> DONE</b>
      * *Ada/Laurent* - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - *DONE*
      * *Ian/Janet* - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - *DONE, 9/26*
      * *Laurent* - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - *DONE*
      * *Mathieu* - Provenance section - *DONE*
      * *Mark CD* - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - *INCOMPLETE*
      * *Mireille* - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - *NEEDS REVIEW*
---++ <a name="Meeting Agenda"></a>Meeting Agenda
   * (*Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD*)<br /><br />
   * General Info
      * IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
      * HEIG Plenary request submitted to TCG; asked for early slot; Fri Nov 15 @ 14:00-15:30
   * Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
      * <a href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/HEGroup/2024-08-30_VOHE-Note-draft.pdf" target="_top">2024-08-30_VOHE-Note-draft.pdf</a> - PDF
      * <a href="https://github.com/ivoa/HighEnergyDataNote" target="_blank">https://github.com/ivoa/HighEnergyDataNote</a> - IVOA [[GitHub]]
   * Malta plans for CSP/HEIG session
      * These are the possible science speakers - inivtes sent out
         * 15 - X-ray and Gamma-ray: OPEN
         * 15 - GW LVK and Einstein Telescopes: Giuseppe Greco (INGN/EGO-Virgo)
         * 15 - Very high energy (include neutrino): Karl Kosack (CTA/HESS)
         * 15 - Neutrinos: Jutta Schnabel (ECAP/KM3NeT)
         * 15 - Alert Services: Judy Racusin (NASA/Fermi)
         * 5 minutes talk from HEIG representative givong overview of our activities and asking for the IVOA IG status - Janet
      * These are the questions we asked they address:
         * How does your project make their data discoverable? Are data from your project in the IVOA registry? Are there problems in the IVOA Obscore definition preventing or limiting it?
         * What data products are used in your data analysis and are they interoperable with data from other projects? Do you use a data model?
         * What do you use for an alert system? Do you use VOevent, and if not, can you address the issues you see?
         * How do you coordinate follow up observations currently? Are the Observing plan of your project/mission available externally and is there coordination of your project/mission among the HE projects? Are you familiar with the IVOA ObsLocTAP protocol and ObjObsSAP working draft of the IVOA?
      * Can we offer presentations in WG sessions?? Few ideas ... interested in your input ...
         * HE thoughts on Obscore - joint session with Radio/DAL??
            * Findability of HE data - Is it more than Obscore?? How about Catalog data??
         * HE thoughts on HE data formats and how they fit/don't fit into IVOA; or just take one wavelength and tackle that -- contrib to a DM session
   * IVOA HEIG Note progress
      * Status summary from Mathieu
         * *Review Doc actions - thanks to those who worked to close actions and suggest new areas to expand on*
         * *Discussed Author list - MS will start with those that contributed to the doc via Git as a start*
      * What is missing??
         * Are catalogs discussed sufficiently? Should it be a section??
         * Are our topics to pursue as an IG identified well?? Should we add Data discovery, Alerts, Followup Observations?
      * Complete or Draft by Interop??<b> Needs an end to end review and comment - set action to group</b>
   * Need to go to Interop with suggested names for Ch/V Ch to the Exec;; 3 year term;; this is one of the hesitations of the Exec cause it's sometimes hard to find folks to fill those roles. For an Interest group at least the Chair should be a scientist.
      * Bruno suggested by Catherine; thought 2nd person should come from US/NASA
   * AOB
      * Note: a new rec - VOEvent 2.1 is in the Request for Comment phase; see link to doc:
         * https://www.ivoa.net/documents/VOEvent/20240522/PR-VOEvent-2.1-20240522.pdf
   * *Next Mtg: Wednesday Oct 23 <a href="https://twitter.com/13" target="_blank">@13</a>:00 UTC*

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