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---+ Protocol Transitioning Tiger Team (P3T)

The Protocol Transitioning Tiger Team was formed in Tucson at the Interop meeting in Nov 2023. The aim is to address the question of compatibility of the DAL protocols (and by implication protocols such as UWS) with modern web development tools. A number of people volunteered to form a tiger team to work on this.

The recommendations being examined would mostly be in DAL and GWS (e.g., TAP, SIA2, SODA, UWS) so will need to be a cross WG effort. A question to answer is : How do we adapt the protocol interactions to be compatible with tools such as [[https://swagger.io/specification/][OpenAPI]].

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---++ Membership - email alias "P3T"
   * James Dempsey - james.dempsey@csiro.au - Lead (DAL Ch) - P3T Lead
   * Dave Morris - dave@metagrid.co.uk
   * Kim Gillies - kgillies@tmt.org (If we are volunteering to help with creating service APIs in OPENAPI, I would participate)
   * Gregory Dubois Felsmann - gpdf@ipac.caltech.edu
   * Grégory Mantelet - gregory.mantelet@astro.unistra.fr (DAL V Ch)
   * Janet Evans - [[mailto:janet@cfa.harvard.edu][janet@cfa.harvard.edu]]
   * Jesus Salgado - jesus.salgado@skao.int (GWS Ch)
   * Joshua Fraustro - jfraustro@stsci.edu (sharing pydantic/pydantic-xml models)
   * Marco Molinaro - marco.molinaro@inaf.it
   * Rick Ebert - rick.ebert@caltech.edu (NED) anything that helps to standardize datamodel/semantics
   * Paul Harrison - paul.harrison@manchester.ac.uk
   * Sara Bertocco - sara.bertocco@inaf.it (GWS V Ch)
   * Theresa Dower - dower@stsci.edu (work on open sourcing the pydantic model code in recent MAST TAP services.)
   * Tom Donaldson - tdonaldson@stsci.edu
   * Adrian Damian - adrian.damian@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
   * Brian Major - brian.major@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
   * Russ Allbery - eagle@eyrie.org
   * Pat Dowler - pdowler.cadc@gmail.com
---++ Meetings (reverse order)
   * Wed 22 May 2024 at 1:30 Sydney - [[%ATTACHURL%/P3T_Forward_Planning_mtg_May22.pdf][P3T_Forward_Planning_mtg_May22.pdf]]
   * Wed 22 May 2024 at 9am Sydney - [[InterOpMay2024P3T][P3T Plenary session]]
   * Thu/Fri May 16/17 Sydney 10am Local time;
      * Agenda - [[%ATTACHURL%/PTTT_May1617_Schedule.pdf][PTTT_May1617_Schedule.pdf]]
      * Notes - [[https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_16May_PTTT][Yopad shared notes May 16]], [[https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_17May_PTTT][Yopad shared notes May 17]] (will expired July 2024) - [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOA_16May_PTTT.pdf][IVOA_16May_PTTT.pdf]] and [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOA_17May_PTTT.pdf][IVOA_17May_PTTT.pdf]]
   * Mon 22 Apr 2024 20:00 UTC - [[https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_26Apr_PTTT][yopad shared notes]] (will expire June 2024) - [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOA_26Apr_PTTT.pdf][IVOA_26Apr_PTTT.pdf]]
   * Mon 25 Mar 2024 20:00 UTC - [[https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_26Mar_PTTT][yopad shared notes]] (will expire May 2024) - [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOA_26Mar_PTTT.pdf][IVOA_26Mar_PTTT.pdf]]
   * 26 Feb 2024 at 20:00 UTC - [[https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_26Feb_PTTT][yopad shared notes]] (will expire April 2024) - [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOA_26Feb_PTTT.pdf][IVOA_26Feb_PTTT.pdf]]
   * 22 Jan 2024 at 20:00 UTC - [[https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_22Jan_PTTT][yopad shared notes]] - [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOA_22Jan_PTTT.pdf][IVOA_22Jan_PTTT.pdf]]
   * Nov 2023 - Tucson Interop - [[%ATTACHURL%/Modernization_of_protocols.pdf][Modernization_of_protocols.pdf]] (From DAL session YOPAD)
---++ High-Level Roadmap
   * Setup a wiki & mail list
   * Meet over 4 months ... Jan - April (once a month)
   * Plan to meet in Sydney 2 days (Thu/Fri, May 16/17) prior to IVOA that starts on Sunday (discussed with Simon/he can do it)
   * May Interop : May 20-24; TCG mtg: May 19
   * Followup with 3 phase plan ... Phase 1 due @ Fall Interop
---++ OpenAPI Project Links (add yours)
   * https://github.com/spacetelescope/vo-openapi - UWS OpenAPI spec (WIP)
   * https://github.com/spacetelescope/vo-models - Pydantic python models
   * https://github.com/pahjbo/DataModelPlayground/tree/interface_models - defining the data models in VO-DML with automatic java and python code generation.
---++ Related GitHub issues (add yours)
   * [[https://github.com/ivoa-std/DALI/issues/33][new xtype="json"]]
   * [[https://github.com/ivoa-std/DALI/issues/34][Include YAML as well as JSON]]
   * [[https://github.com/ivoa-std/VOTable/issues/54][Update VOTable to preserve spaces]]
   * [[https://github.com/ivoa-std/VOTable/issues/55][Update VOTable to handle UTF-8]]
---++ <span style="font-size: 18.85px;">References</span>
   * OpenAPIs - https://www.openapis.org
   * Frossie's talk at Bologna in GWS2 -<a href="Joshua’s%20talk%20https://wiki.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/InterOpMay2023DAL/mast-tapservice-fraustro.pdf" title="Frossie's talk in Bologna (GWS2)"> https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2023GWS</a>
   * Joshua's talk in Bologna in DAL: [[%PUBURL%/IVOA/InterOpMay2023DAL/mast-tapservice-fraustro.pdf][https://wiki.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/InterOpMay2023DAL/mast-tapservice-fraustro.pdf]]
   * Simbad ConeSearch service I presented in Bologna: https://simbad.cds.unistra.fr/cone/help/
   * Notes of the DAL sessions with volunteer list for the Tiger Team at the end of the doc: https://wiki.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/InterOpNov2023DAL/DAL_1.pdf
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pdf	IVOA_16May_PTTT.pdf	r1	manage	54.9 K	2024-05-19 - 05:02	JamesDempsey
pdf	IVOA_17May_PTTT.pdf	r1	manage	55.7 K	2024-05-19 - 05:03	JamesDempsey
pdf	IVOA_22Jan_PTTT.pdf	r1	manage	39.3 K	2024-02-15 - 00:00	JamesDempsey
pdf	IVOA_26Apr_PTTT.pdf	r1	manage	40.6 K	2024-05-07 - 08:29	JamesDempsey
pdf	IVOA_26Feb_PTTT.pdf	r1	manage	50.3 K	2024-03-07 - 20:33	JamesDempsey
pdf	IVOA_26Mar_PTTT.pdf	r1	manage	48.7 K	2024-04-02 - 11:31	JamesDempsey
pdf	Modernisation_of_protocols.pdf	r1	manage	22.1 K	2024-06-06 - 17:15	JanetEvans
pdf	Modernization_of_protocols.pdf	r1	manage	22.2 K	2024-06-06 - 17:20	JanetEvans
pdf	P3T_Forward_Planning_mtg_May22.pdf	r1	manage	46.6 K	2024-06-06 - 16:56	JanetEvans
pdf	PTTT_May1617_Schedule.pdf	r1	manage	54.4 K	2024-05-15 - 21:37	JanetEvans	PTTT Face to Face schedule - May 16/17